Preface
This hasn’t been updated since 2008, so there is even more information such as the heresy books, 5th and 6th editions. So I added a bit here and there.
The original concept of this belongs to Refuse of Emperorschildren.net and the Bolter and Chainsword. Refuse discussions like this one once every three years before allowing Sigismund Himself to take a shot at this back in 2008. In 2014 it was reposted, and now again in 2025.
To answer some initial questions:
1) We know that it was a bunch of random people writing random stuff (see Marc Gascoigne quote)
2) We know GW owns the fluff, and they can do what they want. This is for people who like to think about topics.
3) Yes, the Ultramarines were a 3rd founding chapter, and the Crimson Fists were a first founding legion!
4) The Horus Heresy was originally defined as the inter-legionary war per the Horus Heresy boxed set.
5) Yes, there is more stuff you could add if you brought in Chaos and C’Tan/Necrons, but we focused on the Imperium, more fun and easier to poke.
So without further ado, Refuse and Sigismund Himself present to you….
An Orwellian Take on 40k
To question is to doubt; doubt is a sign of weakness.
The background of the 40k universe has been constantly changing. Edition after edition has built upon or replaced the background of the 40k universe. We, as readers of the background, know that GW is publishing new facts for the background. All have been published as facts. So what makes one fact more correct than the other? This is where two camps emerge. For example, take the Inquisition factions; there are many shades in between the two, and many viewpoints exist within even these categories.
Puritan: The most recent fluff is correct. This is the only correct fluff; all the other background is superseded by this. You acknowledge the meta-game dimension of GW’s control over the fluff.
Radical: Fluff is like history- a single line that has been dictated by opinions, bias, and propaganda throughout the years. Rather than seeing the most recent fluff stamped above other sources, you develop theories as to why the story was changed. You see that the majority of the fluff comes from the viewpoint of the Imperium and thus would be subject to distortion.
Most people would be familiar with the Puritan view of fluff, so we’re going to concentrate on the Radical view.
The Radical (or Orwellian) view of the background tries to make these fluff changes fit into the framework of the 40k lore. In essence, you think of a reason why this happened in the 40k universe. To think in this way, you cannot acknowledge the meta-dimension of Games Workshop’s control over the fluff. You have to think in-universe. Thus, Guilliman becoming a Primarch was not a simple GW changing of fluff but was part of something bigger within the 40k universe (see below for more on this).
It uses the principles of Doublethink from George Orwell’s 1984, from which some of the themes in the 40k universe can be traced (a great book as well, I highly recommend reading it). Doublethink is the ability to hold two seemingly irreconcilable facts in your head and believe them both. In this discussion, doublethink is the ability to hold two conflicting pieces of fluff in your mind and resolve them. One of these pieces of fluff may be the truth, the other propaganda spread by someone within the Imperium (the High Lords, for example…). Both may be partially true, with bits of the truth contained in each. Maybe it’s all lies, and only you know the truth
Convenient, is it not?
The HighLords
Guess who controls the creation of new marine chapters? The High Lords. So guess which gene they use the most? The Ultramarines, naturally. They can then be assured that other ancient grudges are not passed down to other successors too much. As long as the majority of the chapters are drawn from the Ultramarines line (such as the current 3/5ths), a wholesale uprising by the Astartes is not likely. The merest hint of rebellion has been put down ruthlessly. The Celestial Lions’ near annihilation at the hands of ‘surprisingly accurate’ sniper fire from Orks takes on a whole new dimension. Would this chapter have had something to reveal? Since it did not have the prestige of some other Templars (the Black Templars and Space Wolves spring to mind…), they suffered the consequences of silence to prevail.
This opens another interesting dimension to the Crimson Fists’ Fortress Monastery. Perhaps the Inquisition got wind of something; perhaps the Feast of Blades meeting between the Imperial Fists’ successors had some interesting things said at it. Some rebellion planned. So the Orks invade the Crimson Fists’ homeworld, conveniently. Or were they redirected like so many other Waaghs, and go about their business? An ‘accident’ occurs with the launch of a missile, and the Fortress Monastery is no more. The Lords of Terra who so commonly used the ministorum Assainadium. All those ancient artifacts and records from the First Founding of the Legions, gone. Not to mention most of the chapter. Was it an attempt to wipe the chapter out, or was it just a warning shot across the bows of the chapter? A one last chance? Wasn’t it convenient that Kantor was outside of the ancient fortress when it went up, but the rest of the legion was present? And as per the codex, this gives even more ambiguity about why exactly the Eldar saved him from the Orks. Perhaps Kantor has a role to play yet in the potential rebellion of the Astartes…
Yet we could delve into this further. How did the High Lords come to power? By the near-death of the Emperor. Perhaps Horus fell more than once.
The Emperor knows, the Emperor is watching the Sensei subplot. In the Third Edition Rulebook, an Inquisitorial report says that they are merely a Tzeentchian plot. But this is just what the High Lords want you to think. They don’t want to relinquish their power, and they are willing to fight among each other for it (Age of Apostasy and the Assassin Wars). If the Emperor were to rise, they risk his wrath for what their predecessors have done. If he rises, they won’t have the same power. So, a bit of skulduggery and the only hope of awakening the Emperor is painted over as a Chaos plot.
This is just a view of the 40k Universe that I can see. I’m sure you can think of even more things and better conspiracies than this, have a go. Let me know if you do, I’d be interested in hearing them.
Sanity is Statistical
Ultimately, this is just about a way that you can view the fluff. Everyone has their own views on it and their own personal retconning. This is merely just a challenge to those who haven’t thought about the fluff in this way. Look at the current fluff and the old fluff. Draw lines between the two and try to see why those changes would have been made in the 40k Universe, or what really is the truth in between those two absolute statements of fact. Look at fluff in ways you haven’t looked at it before. Think in-universe. Accept all fluff! Make your own truth!
++This post is approved by the Ministry of Truth++

